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When Bad Religion Confronts Good Science, and Vice Versa

first_imgA spooky Halloween thought: there are still witch doctors in the world today.  If they were harmless spooks, they could be dismissed as kooks, but they can have a devastating impact on the ecology as well as the souls of men.  National Geographic had a disturbing story this month about the witch doctors of Uganda, who are driving the beautiful gray-crowned cranes of the country extinct, because of superstitious beliefs.    These birds with golden headdresses, also known as crested cranes, are among the most beautiful in Africa.  They are popular and beloved icons for most people in the region.In the past decade, though, the crane population in Uganda has fallen from 50,000 to 20,000, primarily due to witch doctors—also known as traditional healers—who use the animals in folk medicine and poachers who take the birds from their natural habitat….    The healers crush the eggs with herbs to sell as a “love potion.”  Feathers, claws, and beaks of the cranes are also used in drinks and as decorations for promoting monogamy and affection.    The crane is also perceived as a good omen that can cast away evil spirits from children.Because the cranes mate for life, village people think that by consuming the birds’ eggs and feathers, they too will have better relationships.  A team of researchers found 40 dead cranes in the shrines of witch doctors.  Because the birds are treated cruelly in capture and transport, poachers often have to catch 4 or 5 for every one that actually makes it to the black market.    For a study in contrasts, when the good-guy/bad-guy roles are reversed, consider what is happening in schools and universities across America.  The website for the upcoming movie Expelled (see 08/22/2007 and 10/25/2007) is holding a contest for true stories from students, professors and scientists who have been ostracized, fired, denied tenure, or otherwise expelled simply for doubting the reigning paradigm of Darwinian evolution.  In just a few days, the site at Expelled has collected 16 stories.  These include teachers and senior research scientists with impressive academic research records.  The movie itself will detail many of the notable cases.  It is expected that many will refrain from telling their stories, though, for fear of retribution.If you are appalled at both cases, good.  You have not bought into the white science vs. black religion dichotomy, which has been roundly debunked by most historians of science, such as Lawrence M. Principe (Johns Hopkins; see Teaching Company lecture series).  It means you are wise to the either-or fallacy.  It also means that you assume Judeo-Christian morality as a precondition of judging right from wrong.    Clearly there is plenty of good and bad in both science and religion.  If we can judge between good and bad science, as does James Randi, the skeptics societies and the Ig Nobel Prize judges, we should also be able to judge good and bad religion.  If it is wrong to judge science based on bad examples, it is wrong to judge all religion because of witch doctors who drive beautiful birds extinct based on foolish superstitions.  A little more reflection will reveal that science and religion are not watertight compartments but have many aspects that overlap and reinforce one another.    If you are an evolutionist, or an atheist, on what basis could you claim that what the witch doctors are doing is bad?  According to Darwinism, primitive peoples and their religious sensations evolved, as did their prey, the cranes.  If the cranes are wiped out by the humans, too bad.  The humans are obviously the fittest.  Evolutionists should actually praise the selfishness of the native people who are trying to improve their reproductive fitness, because selfishness is the ultimate good in Darwinland.  Darwinists believe that even altruism is a byproduct of selfishness.  Decrying the birds’ fate only makes sense if humans have souls, who have an innate sense of true moral categories that should make us care about such things.    On a scatter plot of case studies in science and religion, we should expect to find clusters of good religion and good science, bad religion and bad science, good religion and bad science, and good science and bad religion.  We can make these judgments only if we presuppose a righteous Creator.  Because Christians and Jews believe in a holy, personal God who called all things He made good, and created man in His image, they alone have a foundation for making sound moral judgments based on God’s holy standard.    So, Darwin Dogmatists, ease up on your fellow academics who disagree with the reigning paradigm, and hear them out.  Stop judging them until you can define and defend your moral categories, and consistently judge your own actions and beliefs accordingly (including the integrity of science).  This means you will have to acknowledge Judeo-Christian moral standards at the outset.  If not, please explain where your moral categories come from, and why anyone else should feel the way you do.    Then, let the good scientists and good Jews and Christians join the fight to save the endangered creatures God has put under our stewardship.  Suggested method: win the Ugandans to Christianity, so that they have a basis for sound moral judgment and appreciation for creation.  Then educate them in science and ecology so they will know how best to care for their fellow created things.  Educate them in logic and Bible doctrine so that they will not fall for superstitious myths (II Timothy 2:23-25, Ephesians 4:14-15).  This will heal a fallen society from within so that the population will have an internal motivation to do good, without the need for police and government regulations.    Halloween is also Reformation Day.  The Protestant Reformation was not just a theological quibble over doctrine.  It was a call to freedom of conscience for each individual to respond to his or her Creator in faith, love and reason – to have personal access to the Word of God in their own language.  Many historians have attributed the rise of science, political liberty, the end of tyranny and slavery, and a plethora of new social institutions based on personal responsibility to that fateful day on October 31, 1517, when Martin Luther, in a one-man crusade of righteous indignation at a moral evil he witnessed (his people enslaved by a foolish superstition), nailed his 95 Theses to the church door in Wittenburg.    The story is complex, and Luther was far from a perfect man; he also was indebted to brave predecessors such as Jon Hus and John Wycliffe.  Luther’s crusade bore good fruit because he studied God’s word intently, using his God-given reason, instead of acquiescing to the doctrines of mere men, and had the courage and opportunity to open this door of freedom to others.  One of his passions was to get the Word of God into the common language so that individuals could study it for themselves.  Western civilization has benefited immensely since.  (For a summary of the benefits, see this Reformation Society article).  The ending of the movie Martin Luther says, “Luther’s influence extended into economics, politics, education and music, and his translation of the Bible became a foundation stone of the German language.  Today over 540 million people worship in churches inspired by his Reformation.”    Is this not morally superior to the Halloween haunts of witch doctors who enslave poor people in dark superstitions?  Let’s give the captive people of tribal villages the same opportunity.  Jesus Christ can turn the heart of darkness to everlasting light (I John 1).  When that light illuminates both science and religion, the fusion of good religion and good science is a recipe for whooping cranes and joyful people.Exercise:  List leaders in various fields who were products of the Reformation, along with the benefits they brought to humanity.  Examples: J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel (music), William Wilberforce (human rights), Johannes Kepler (astronomy), John Milton (literature), Adam Smith (free market economics), John Adams (political liberty).  Suggested reference: How Christianity Changed the World by Alvin J. Schmidt.(Visited 25 times, 1 visits today)FacebookTwitterPinterestSave分享0last_img read more

Breast cancer is on the agenda

first_imgThe above infographic disproves some of the myths people believe about breast cancer and the threats it poses. (Image: Brand South Africa)Breast cancer awareness month is under way this month in South Africa and the rest of the world, when organisations, corporations and the public help to spread awareness and information about the disease.Breast cancer is the most common type of cancer among South African women and the second most prevalent of all cancers among women of all races around the world. Non-melanoma skin cancer is the most common form of cancer.According to the 2009 National Cancer Registry, one in 33 South African women will suffer from breast cancer at some point during their lives.“The designation of October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month in South Africa reflects a nationwide drive by public and private health care structures to raise awareness of this debilitating disease across all races and class structures,” the Department of Health said in announcing the event.With health care forming an integral part of South Africa’s National Development Plan (NDP) it is important that South Africans are informed about how to ensure their wellbeing as well as of those for whom they are responsible.Raising awareness of breast cancer and arming people with a working knowledge of the disease ties in with meeting the NDP’s health care pillar.“The only way we are going to address women’s sexual and reproductive health, including cervical and breast cancer, HIV and Aids and TB, is to ensure that policies, programmes and services are integrated,” said Thobeka Madiba-Zuma, South Africa’s first lady.Madiba-Zuma was speaking in New York City on 27 and 28 September, where she used her attendance at the 70th session of the United Nation General Assembly to promote women’s health awareness. “It is my responsibility to the people of South Africa to ensure that women’s sexual and reproductive health is kept high on the national and global agenda.”AT RISKMany people believe that they have no risk of breast cancer for a number of reasons, such as the idea that if there is no known history of the disease in their family, they will not get it. Although having a history of breast cancer in your family does increase your chances of developing the disease, however, the absence of cancer in your family does not mean you are not at risk.Many people are under the impression that breast cancer is only a threat to women; contrary to popular belief, men can contract the disease as well, although they are less likely to do so than women. One in 1 249 men worldwide will get breast cancer during their lifetimes.This is because men have far less breast tissue than women and thus run less of a risk of developing cancerous cells in their breast – but that does not mean it cannot happen.Regular examination, done yourself or by a professional, as well as mammograms can go a long way to avoiding the complications inherent in late discovery of breast cancer. (Image: ICON)EARLY DIAGNOSISThroughout October, organisations such as Cansa and the Pink Drive are raising awareness of the disease. They are encouraging people to care for their health as well as support those who have the illness.Best health practices are promoted during breast cancer awareness month, and people are encouraged to undergo regular routine checks to identify the development of cancerous cells early on and take measures to reduce risk.“Early diagnosis gives the cancer patient a higher chance of complete cure and less extensive surgery,” explains Dr Sheldon Godinho, the president of the Radiological Society of South Africa. “Early detection is a critically important factor in winning the battle against breast cancer.”Regular examination, done yourself or by a professional, as well as mammograms can go a long way to avoiding the complications inherent in late discovery of breast cancer.As International Breast Cancer Month continues through October, people of all ages and genders should take the time to support those suffering from breast cancer and ensure their own health and wellness.last_img read more

Zoho Makes Another Move to be the IT of the Small Business Market

first_imgIT + Project Management: A Love Affair It’s clear that Zoho is gunning for the enterprise market with a focus on the small business sector. The company is increasingly perceived as a competitive threat to larger, more established companies. This is illustrated by a Microsft executive’s remark earlier this month that Zoho is a “fake” Microsoft office.Zoho responded with FakeOffice.org, featuring a video they made in September, renaming it “Fake Office – the Movie.” Zoho is a challenger to Salesforce.com in the small business market, which has moved up market in the past few years. That approach has worked for Salesforce but in these markets the company faces deep pressures from larger competitors such as Oracle.Zoho faces its own competition but it has a unique approach. Its products are varied, giving customers the feeling that they are using a service that is customized for their particular needs.Plus, we like their videos. 🙂 They explain their products. How about that? Tags:#enterprise#news#Products#saas Cognitive Automation is the Immediate Future of… alex williamscenter_img Related Posts 3 Areas of Your Business that Need Tech Now Zoho is making another move to serve as the IT department for the small business market. Its latest offering is a service for staffing agencies and human resources to automate the process for hiring people. The new service, available now, is an applicant tracking system that helps staffing agencies and recruiting departments track job openings, resumes and candidates. The enterprise is stil heavily dependent on email and manual processes for any number of practices with human resources being no exception to the rule. Zoho’s strategy is to create a level of automation that makes a human resources functions manageable, a model they have used for the services they offer for sales, marketing and other functions in the enterprise.Zoho Recruit has a number of features including web forms; the ability to aggregate resumes from social sites and ways to track the status of a client within the application.Activity streams are emerging as a standard for new social enterprise products. In Zoho Recruit, though, the activity streams look more like simple views into the status of a job opening, profiles of other people on the team and the interviews on schedule for the day. Here’s an overview of Zoho Recruit: Massive Non-Desk Workforce is an Opportunity fo…last_img read more

A Heating Fuel Cost Comparison Calculator

first_imgEfficiency of consumption varies a lot tooAlso, the amount of useful heat obtained from a given fuel depends on how efficiently it’s consumed. Combustion efficiency varies widely — from as low as 30% for the worst of the outdoor wood boilers to over 95% for a top-efficiency, condensing gas boiler. Heating with electric baseboard heaters is 100% efficient. (Keep in mind that most electricity comes from coal or natural gas, and utilities are only about 30% efficient in converting those fossil fuels into electrons delivered to your home.)Buildings using electric heat pumps have much higher efficiencies (typically 200%–300%), because electricity is used for moving heat from one place to another, rather than being converted directly into heat. Is there a better heating fuel out there?The cold endured by these penguins got me thinking about heating fuels. With home heating fuel prices bouncing up and down as much as they have over the last few years, it’s easy to think that there must be a better solution out there, with a different fuel. But is there? Some cost calculations will help us answer that question.Let’s check on the prices of major regional heating fuels. According to the Department of Energy, the average price this month for residential heating oil is $3.68 per gallon (wholesale is $2.97). Residential propane costs $2.78 per gallon ($1.52 wholesale). This varies all over the map, but the most common price I am seeing for delivered cordwood is $250 per cord. Wood pellets are priced at about $270 per ton. Electricity here in southern Vermont currently costs 14 cents per kilowatt-hour, but it’s all over the map (literally) across the country. Heating value and per unit of fuel variesBy themselves, these cost figures don’t mean much because the heating value, or BTUs, contained in a unit of each fuel is so different. For example, one gallon of fuel oil contains 0.15 million BTUs, while one gallon of propane contains 40% less: 0.091 million BTUs. Combining factors into one easy comparisonIn order to combine all these factors into a meaningful comparison of heating fuel costs, it’s easiest to use an online comparison calculator like one offered by BuildingGreen.This allows you to enter your cost for a particular fuel, your heating system efficiency, and its distribution efficiency. The end result is a figure in dollars per million BTUs that reflects your real costs of delivered heat and allows you to compare that with other options. Example: Switch from oil to propane?I know someone who heats with oil, paying $3.68 per gallon, and uses an older forced-air furnace with roughly 75% efficiency. The heat is distributed through ducts that run through the heated space, with roughly 98% efficiency. Using the online calculator, we can see my friend is paying $36.10 per million BTUs.Let’s say he wants to upgrade to propane in order to take advantage of the more stable prices, and the 90% efficiency offered by good propane furnaces. With the same ducted distribution, he would be paying $34.51 per million BTUs.Switching to propane would, in this case, save some money, but not a huge amount, and particularly with fluctuating prices a fuel switch here would be debatable on cost grounds. On a carbon comparison, however the higher efficiency, cleaner-burning propane would be an improvement. I might advise this friend to switch now if he felt really motivated by that, but otherwise to get more life out of his current furnace and in the meantime, work on air sealing and other cost-effective efficiency measures.What are you heating with, and what are you considering switching to? Check out our free online calculator at BuildingGreen.com/calc/fuel_cost.cfm and let me know what you think.Tristan Roberts is Editorial Director at BuildingGreen, Inc., in Brattleboro, Vermont, which publishes information on green building solutions. I recently caught up with where the rest of the world was in 2005 by watching the hit documentary “March of the Penguins.” It’s been on my list for a while but when evening arrives I’m much more prone to watching films about people — people like James Bond, for example. But my wife and I had a baby two weeks ago, and suddenly movies narrated by Morgan Freeman seem like more appropriate family fare.My only quibble with the movie is the name: it would be more accurate to call it “Commute of the Penguins.” I had understood that the movie was about this extraordinary 70-mile walk that Emperor penguins undertake once a year to get to their Antarctic breeding ground. I learned from the movie, though, that they go back and forth several times, with the parents taking turns to get food while the other does childcare. (Tip to dads: don’t let your offspring freeze while mom is out catching fish for dinner.) … And don’t forget efficiency of distributionTo further complicate fuel cost comparisons, a third factor is how efficiently heat is distributed. With electric baseboard radiators, the heat is produced right in the room, so the distribution is 100% efficient. Baseboard hot water (hydronic) heat is also usually very efficient, though uninsulated hot water pipes running through an unheated basement can lower that efficiency.With a hot-air furnace and ducts to carry the heat, however, the distribution efficiency can be quite low, especially if poorly insulated, leaky ducts run through an unheated attic or crawl space — distribution efficiency as low as 60% to 65% is not uncommon.To calculate the actual delivered efficiency of your heating system, you have to multiply the combustion efficiency by the distribution efficiency. For example, if you have a 78% efficient oil furnace and a relatively leaky duct system running through an unheated attic (65% efficient distribution), your overall efficiency of delivered heat is just over 50% (0.78 x 0.65) — meaning that only half of the energy you’ve paid for is actually being used to keep you warm!last_img read more

“Side Hustle” Jobs for Military Spouses: Part 1

first_imgBy Carol Church It can be tough for military spouses to maintain an active and productive career. As inventive, determined, and hard-working as these wives and husbands are, they face some roadblocks, including:Wary employers. Though it shouldn’t be a factor, some people shy away from hiring someone they perceive as a “short-timer.”Isolated locations. Sometimes spouses may be living in “the middle of nowhere,” with few good opportunities within commuting range.Additional family and child care responsibilities. When a spouse is deployed, every home, pet, or parenting emergency tends to land on the spouse at home. Jobs with long or strict hours may not work.Variable job markets, licensing requirements, or work landscapes. After a move, it may be the case that old skills don’t apply, can’t be transferred, or require more training, testing, or investment.Emotional stress from deployment. If the spouse’s job is mentally, physically, or emotionally demanding, combining this with deployment stress may just feel like too much.Taken together, these challenges can be enough to make it hard or even impossible to find a full-time, salaried position. It’s also true that many military spouses don’t want to work full-time, particularly when raising children.However, there may still be a need and desire to make some money, get out of the house, or experience the other benefits working can bring. This is where the creative “side hustle” can shine.Photospin/Monkey Business ImagesWhat is a Side Hustle?While there are a lot of ways to define this and many possible opportunities, we’re thinking of a side hustle as a job or money-making venture that is not your typical long-term, daily, paid position. For some, it may be an additional money-maker on top of other work; for others, it will be their only job. Side jobs could include starting an independent business, offering services or goods through an established marketplace (such as Etsy or DogVacay, among many others), short-term part-time gigs (such as assisting with catering at events), selling items, and many other possibilities.Why Try It?The right side hustle can help a military spouse bring in extra money while also working well with the military lifestyle. This type of work is often:Flexible. They may be able to set their own hours, work only when desired, or work unconventional hours.Location independent. Depending on the type of work, they may be able to bring the job with them anywhere.Rewarding. Many who start a side hustle choose something they feel especially excited about or interested in. Though not every project will be a success, the side hustle can be a great way to do what you loveSelf expanding. A good side hustle can diversify a resume and build new skills.Why It May Not be the Right ChoiceHowever, “side hustling” isn’t for everyone, and starting a business, especially, is not as simple as some would like you to think. Here are some cons military spouses should keep in mind:No benefits or retirement pay: Very few of these positions will provide medical benefits, paid time off, or retirement. While the military offers many benefits, the loss of these perks is still significant.Risk: Business involves risk, and often, upfront capital as well. If the venture fails, they may be out money.Overwork and underpay: It can be very easy to undervalue one’s time, especially when personally invested in a project and working for oneself. And burnout is real.Variable income: As any freelancer can tell you, working for yourself is often a “feast or famine” situation. Some families need a reliable check every two weeks.Difficult clients or customers: When you work for yourself (and sometimes even if you don’t), you may encounter strange, demanding, or difficult clients or customers. Some of them may give you poor reviews or refuse to pay you.In our next installment, we’ll go over finding the right side job, and do’s and don’ts for success.last_img read more

Four Filipinos to see action in ONE: Warriors of the World in Bangkok

first_imgPangilinan: PH ‘putting very good bid’ to host 2023 Fiba World Cup Stronger peso trims PH debt value to P7.9 trillion Trending Articles PLAY LIST 00:50Trending Articles00:45Onyok Velasco see bright future for PH boxing in Olympics02:18Alvarez ready to take risk vs Folayang, looks to end clash by ‘knockout or submission’01:29Police teams find crossbows, bows in HK university01:35Panelo suggests discounted SEA Games tickets for students02:49Robredo: True leaders perform well despite having ‘uninspiring’ boss02:42PH underwater hockey team aims to make waves in SEA Games01:44Philippines marks anniversary of massacre with calls for justice01:19Fire erupts in Barangay Tatalon in Quezon City Photo from ONE ChampionshipFour Filipinos will proudly hoist the country’s flag when they enter the cage at ONE Warriors of the World at Impact Arena in Bangkok, Thailand on December 9.Female fighters April Osenio and Rome Trinidad banner the Philippine delegation as they take on different opponents in the undercard.ADVERTISEMENT Brace for potentially devastating typhoon approaching PH – NDRRMC Read Next The Bangkok fightcard will see ONE Strawweight World Champion Yoshitaka Naito defend his title against Brazilian Alex Silva in the main event, while Shannon Wiratchai and Rasul Yakhyaev figure in a ONE Lightweight World Championship title eliminator.Singapore’s Christian Lee will also lock horns with Kotetsu Buku of South Korea, former ONE Strawweight World Champion Dejdamrong Sor Amnuaysirichoke going up against Riku Shibuya, hometown bet Yodsanan Sityodtong taking on Dodi Mardian of Indonesia, and Chinese bantamweight Tang De Pan facing Asraful Islam of Bangladesh. CPP denies ‘Ka Diego’ arrest caused ‘mass panic’ among S. Tagalog NPA LATEST STORIES QC cops nab robbery gang leader, cohortcenter_img Don’t miss out on the latest news and information. MOST READ Cayetano: 4 social media groups behind SEA Games ‘sabotage’ Japan ex-PM Nakasone who boosted ties with US dies at 101 Kammuri turning to super typhoon less likely but possible — Pagasa Typhoon Kammuri accelerates, gains strength en route to PH The 23-year-old Osenio (2-2) is seeking to bounce back from her loss to Jenny Huang last year as Team Lakay pins its hopes on her when she faces the debuting Xiong Jingnan of China in their flyweight bout.Meanwhile, the 20-year-old Trinidad will be making her ONE debut as she showcases her Sikaran background and shoots for an upset against Thai contender Rika Ishige in their atomweight showdown.FEATURED STORIESSPORTSWATCH: Drones light up sky in final leg of SEA Games torch runSPORTSSEA Games: Philippines picks up 1st win in men’s water poloSPORTSMalditas save PH from shutoutCebuano featherweight Jimmy Yabo (5-5) is also seeking to end his three-match skid when he tangles with Muay Thai specialist Sagetdao Petpayathai.Wushu expert Rabin Catalan (4-3) is also motivated to snap his own slump as he faces strawweight contender Kritsada Kongsrichai of Thailand. View commentslast_img read more

10 months agoLyon ace Depay: The challenge Mourinho made me…

first_imgTagsTransfersAbout the authorPaul VegasShare the loveHave your say Lyon ace Depay: The challenge Mourinho made me…by Paul Vegas10 months agoSend to a friendShare the loveOlympique Lyon ace Memphis Depay has revealed Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho offered the carrot of buying him back when he was sold two years ago.Depay failed to settle in at Manchester United during his two years at the Old Trafford club, but has his career back on track at OL.Talking to The Times, Depay said: “When I left, I said to Mourinho ‘you will see me at the top’. “He said ‘OK, I hope that and I hope we will buy you back one day.’ I never had a bad relationship with him.” On his relationship with Louis van Gaal, who brought him to Manchester United, the Dutchman said: “We didn’t fall out, it was just a miss-connection with each other.”As a team we didn’t play great football and some things I don’t understand – if you have talented young players, Anthony Martial, Luke Shaw and the others, they need freedom.” last_img read more

Ohio State womens basketball uses strong second half to beat Michigan 6150

Ohio State junior guard Raven Ferguson (31) dribbles the ball during a game against Old Dominion Nov. 22 at the Schottenstein Center in Columbus, Ohio. OSU won, 75-60.Four players scored in double figures for the Ohio State women’s basketball team Thursday, as the Buckeyes took down Michigan, 61-50, in Ann Arbor, Mich.OSU (13-9, 3-3) was led in scoring by junior guard Raven Ferguson, who came off the bench to score 16 points on 7-14 shooting.The game started off much like the first meeting between the two squads, which took place on Jan. 5, in Columbus, as the Buckeyes once again shot poorly from the field in the first half – just 28.6 percent.The Buckeyes found their stride in the second half.OSU shot an impressive 60 percent from the field in the game’s final 20 minutes, while holding the Wolverines to 29.4 percent shooting.Despite being outrebounded and turning the ball over 18 times, the Buckeyes’ reserves dominated, as junior guard Maleeka Kynard and Ferguson combined for 28 of OSU’s 30 bench points while Michigan only received six points from their bench.Kynard, who averages just 14.2 minutes per game this season, played a career high 31 minutes and tied a career-high with 12 points in the win.Likely due to her improved play of late, senior center Ashley Adams earned a start over fellow senior center Darryce Moore and was one rebound shy of a double-double, recording 11 points and nine rebounds in the Buckeye victory. It was Adams’ eighth start of the season.Sophomore guard Ameryst Alston, who leads the team in scoring this season with 17 points per game, scored just 11 points, seven of which came at the free throw line.Michigan was led in scoring by junior guard Shannon Smith who scored a game-high 17 points.The Buckeyes will attempt to keep the momentum from win over their rival going Sunday, as they are scheduled to play Michigan State (12-7, 4-2) at 12:30 p.m. read more